sandy_77
09-12 12:25 PM
I am of the same opinion. We must make presentations to the Foreign Affairs Dept, Justice Department, Presidential Nominees and the Current President and seek from other larger Indo-American, Indo-Chinese Organizations to highlight our suffering. It does not matter whether we are EB2 or EB3 from India or China. What matters is that this is great injustice. How many members of these departments would accept living like us in a country like USA? Are they ok with living in the uncertainty like we do? Will they accept being in the same pay bracket or at the same job level for 5 or more years and that too is not certain? Can they keep their life on hold particularly in the prime of their youth, the way we do? We must remind them how many documents and how many verifications we have to go through to get to the GC (right from F1 or H1 stage). On top of that when the depts life USCIS which are created to facilitate Immigration, turn their backs on us, what does the US Govt expect from us? What does the US Govt expect us to do when DOS second guesses everything that USCIS does and readjudicates and harasses visa applicants through the consulates (with unending and unaccounted for visa stamping delays)?
I have created a spreadsheet with visa bulletin data for the last one year. Anybody with some sense of justice and fairplay can easily look at the data and say that there is no order and no justice for our plight. I created trend charts for EB1, EB2, EB3 and ROW but these did not get uploaded properly. If somebody wishes to try again and recreate these and some how publish them, these charts could be used to communicate our plight in a very simple manner.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pBRG7hWbHtzBT6rfrI8DYFg
I think we should propose to the administration that in view of this unprecedented chaos in the USCIS, DOS, the Congress (on immigration issue) and by implication our lives, they must delink the GC process from being linked to an employer and to the level/skill level/pay scale the LCA is approved for. By linking the process to sponsoring employer they are promoting indentured labor and by forcing us to file new LCAs/ restart GC process for each promotion, they are just being anti-immigrant and anti-progress.
I have created a spreadsheet with visa bulletin data for the last one year. Anybody with some sense of justice and fairplay can easily look at the data and say that there is no order and no justice for our plight. I created trend charts for EB1, EB2, EB3 and ROW but these did not get uploaded properly. If somebody wishes to try again and recreate these and some how publish them, these charts could be used to communicate our plight in a very simple manner.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pBRG7hWbHtzBT6rfrI8DYFg
I think we should propose to the administration that in view of this unprecedented chaos in the USCIS, DOS, the Congress (on immigration issue) and by implication our lives, they must delink the GC process from being linked to an employer and to the level/skill level/pay scale the LCA is approved for. By linking the process to sponsoring employer they are promoting indentured labor and by forcing us to file new LCAs/ restart GC process for each promotion, they are just being anti-immigrant and anti-progress.
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GCNirvana007
08-25 06:08 PM
VXG,
That validates my reply previously to a posting by a guy who said that he had called up TSC and they said they go by RD...I had asked him to call back after a day and he'd get totally opposite info.
My situation is the same.....I was TSC-CSC-TSC....but I had received an RFE last year.....dunno why will they preadjudicate and then go by ND which is totally non-sense...logic should be that if a case is preadjudicated it should be put on based on PD..
Again USCIS don't follow any logic...
As I said b4 very few transfer cases will ever get approved.....just bid your time...or apply thru EB1 chances are better that way..
SoP
How about someone answer this?
TSC current processing date is August 30th 2007. One yr ago, it was in July 2007 or something. July 2nd filers in 2007 would have had their receipt date as July 2nd and ND like September 2007. If they used ND, its not in their processing zone. So how did they do it?
So yes, its all bs as far as USCIS is concerned. They are govt employees for God's sake.
That validates my reply previously to a posting by a guy who said that he had called up TSC and they said they go by RD...I had asked him to call back after a day and he'd get totally opposite info.
My situation is the same.....I was TSC-CSC-TSC....but I had received an RFE last year.....dunno why will they preadjudicate and then go by ND which is totally non-sense...logic should be that if a case is preadjudicated it should be put on based on PD..
Again USCIS don't follow any logic...
As I said b4 very few transfer cases will ever get approved.....just bid your time...or apply thru EB1 chances are better that way..
SoP
How about someone answer this?
TSC current processing date is August 30th 2007. One yr ago, it was in July 2007 or something. July 2nd filers in 2007 would have had their receipt date as July 2nd and ND like September 2007. If they used ND, its not in their processing zone. So how did they do it?
So yes, its all bs as far as USCIS is concerned. They are govt employees for God's sake.
GCNirvana007
08-18 01:57 PM
Yes, but it is not the receipt generation, it is the actual review of the case as per advertised processing dates. if your case is in the Processing Date window (based on your online receive date), then most likely your case is preadjudicated, and now is waiting for the visa in sequence of PD. Best of luck.
Just spoke to an IO from TSC, she said its the Filing date ( receiving date ) is what the processing time is based on
Just spoke to an IO from TSC, she said its the Filing date ( receiving date ) is what the processing time is based on
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kumar1
07-17 08:02 PM
IV core team, thanks a lot from my family (wife and daughter). We want to see your picture and we also want to send "YOU" flowers. Can we have your address or any address where we can send you flowers. May God bless you and your family.
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a1b2c3
12-04 04:42 PM
Dont you have something called humanity? How are you different from the officer how has done this act? You dont even have a greencard and talking about paying from your pocket?? What would you become when you are citizen here?
Another Lou Dobbs??
Shame on you!!
Easy bro. What humanity are we talking about here? I have no sympathies for illegal immigrants. Here's what I feel. Folks who are already here illegally - give them citizenship after they pay all the taxes they owe.
For still others who continue to keep coming in, strip them, give them dozen lashes in public, and send them back naked.
Another Lou Dobbs??
Shame on you!!
Easy bro. What humanity are we talking about here? I have no sympathies for illegal immigrants. Here's what I feel. Folks who are already here illegally - give them citizenship after they pay all the taxes they owe.
For still others who continue to keep coming in, strip them, give them dozen lashes in public, and send them back naked.
Sherman_tribiani
09-07 11:26 PM
Yes, we all shall see. 10,000, lol. I laugh at your post. A good laugh before going to bed is always good.
Friend - Why don't you wait till 9/18 and have this discussion. Oh, hold on, by that time, the rally will be a huge success and you won't be around here to show your face. Strength is in numbers and you will see the power of immigrants on 9/18. If we could reverse a visa bulletin with a rally of 350+ members and couple of hundred flowers, we will be headlines with 10000+ rally. This is going to be a historic event and why don't you take our side and be part of history instead of being an anti-immigrant cry baby.
Friend - Why don't you wait till 9/18 and have this discussion. Oh, hold on, by that time, the rally will be a huge success and you won't be around here to show your face. Strength is in numbers and you will see the power of immigrants on 9/18. If we could reverse a visa bulletin with a rally of 350+ members and couple of hundred flowers, we will be headlines with 10000+ rally. This is going to be a historic event and why don't you take our side and be part of history instead of being an anti-immigrant cry baby.
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shx
07-06 12:59 AM
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RECIPIENT(S) INFORMATION
Address
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Uscis 20 Massachusetts Avenue, Nw
Washington,DC 20529
Gift(s)
SWEETHEART ROSE BOUQUET - 18 STEMS (#16388)
Delivery Date 07/10/2007
Card Message
HOPE YOU WILL BE BLESSED WITH MORE BRAINS TO PREDICT VISA NUMBERS MORE ACCURATELY IN THE FUTURE.
RECIPIENT(S) INFORMATION
Address
Emilio Gonzalez
Uscis 20 Massachusetts Avenue, Nw
Washington,DC 20529
Gift(s)
SWEETHEART ROSE BOUQUET - 18 STEMS (#16388)
Delivery Date 07/10/2007
Card Message
HOPE YOU WILL BE BLESSED WITH MORE BRAINS TO PREDICT VISA NUMBERS MORE ACCURATELY IN THE FUTURE.
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a_yaja
05-07 08:15 AM
Yes - your application will be up for lottery as mail delivered on non-working day will be considered as mail delivered on first business day after non-working day.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
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gc28262
05-11 04:36 PM
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Any way I became a citizen last week.
You have become a citizen. What is your vested interest in pursuing this divisive discussion ?
Stay away from IV. We don't need your inputs here.
Admins,
number30 is likely an anti-immigrant. Please ban him.
Any way I became a citizen last week.
You have become a citizen. What is your vested interest in pursuing this divisive discussion ?
Stay away from IV. We don't need your inputs here.
Admins,
number30 is likely an anti-immigrant. Please ban him.
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jsb
02-26 07:59 AM
Hi All,
I recently had my last name added on my Passport. I just submitted for updating the SSN. Couple of questions:
1. Does anybody know if I need to run the payroll and also file the taxes with new name on the SSN once it's been updated. I still need to file my 2009 taxes.
2. Do I need to inform USCIS about this or it should be OK if I just submit the new name on I-129 when I apply for renewal later this year.
3. I maintain H1B expiring Sept 2010. I might need to travel to India before expiration with the current visa. Do I need to do anything to avoid name confusion at POE?
Please share your experience. Appreciate your time.
Thanks
North American naming conventions are clear, it has two essential parts, First Name and Last Name. Third part, the middle name is optional, and is also insisted upon, if you have one, to be written in full on all legal docs, such as PP, SS card etc.
Addition of something to your name probably is not adding your last name. It is rather changing your last name, legally speaking.
Therefore, this perhaps needs to be treated as a change of name, and you might need necessary legal docs to prove that, while trying to change for your taxes or other legal docs. Merely having a new passport with something added to your name, may or may not work.
I recently had my last name added on my Passport. I just submitted for updating the SSN. Couple of questions:
1. Does anybody know if I need to run the payroll and also file the taxes with new name on the SSN once it's been updated. I still need to file my 2009 taxes.
2. Do I need to inform USCIS about this or it should be OK if I just submit the new name on I-129 when I apply for renewal later this year.
3. I maintain H1B expiring Sept 2010. I might need to travel to India before expiration with the current visa. Do I need to do anything to avoid name confusion at POE?
Please share your experience. Appreciate your time.
Thanks
North American naming conventions are clear, it has two essential parts, First Name and Last Name. Third part, the middle name is optional, and is also insisted upon, if you have one, to be written in full on all legal docs, such as PP, SS card etc.
Addition of something to your name probably is not adding your last name. It is rather changing your last name, legally speaking.
Therefore, this perhaps needs to be treated as a change of name, and you might need necessary legal docs to prove that, while trying to change for your taxes or other legal docs. Merely having a new passport with something added to your name, may or may not work.
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nareshg
07-07 03:10 PM
The billing address is for the florist! They dont give it to the receiver! Yeah if Emilio really wants he can track you down (subpoena the florist etc etc..). But how many people will he track down? And what is he going to do? Sue you for sending him flowers? Of course that depends on what message you send along with the flowers :)
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thanks - :) I sent a decent message -:)
Message sent with the flowers
Dear Mr. Gonzalez,
Legal skilled non-immigrants are sorry that you are having such a hard time in determining priority dates.
All the best for future employment based visa estimates.
Thank you for showing us the joy for a few days and then taking it away.
- Patiently waiting !!
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thanks - :) I sent a decent message -:)
Message sent with the flowers
Dear Mr. Gonzalez,
Legal skilled non-immigrants are sorry that you are having such a hard time in determining priority dates.
All the best for future employment based visa estimates.
Thank you for showing us the joy for a few days and then taking it away.
- Patiently waiting !!
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07-17 07:08 PM
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potatoeater
08-12 05:01 PM
How did you get the job? Can you send us the name and contact information of the recruiting firm please?
I decided to move to india now. I have I140 cleared and having a permanent job. But enough is enough!
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.
I think this is right decision at this time.
Any suggestions/feedback guys?
I decided to move to india now. I have I140 cleared and having a permanent job. But enough is enough!
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.
I think this is right decision at this time.
Any suggestions/feedback guys?
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gsc999
07-06 01:00 PM
Guys, any reason why we have a whopping 70% of the members not interested in contributing to this idea??
I will give you a couple of reasons, why I am not supporting this idea, at the same time I won't discourage you from doing it:
Last year when CIR was being discussed in Senate, anti-immigrants sent thousands of bricks to Senator's offices. Bricks build walls, their message was clear, focus on border security first. This was a -ve campaign. It was popular in the right wing media but since CIR passed in Senate. I am presuming this campaign didn't work. The reason it failed was because the idea was to grab headlines but no thought on what after that. No strategy. Lets correlate this with flowers. An officer at USCIS will get these or maybe a dozen people. They will feel good. End of story. They don't have the ability to change the USCIS policy or the July bulletin, which is IV's aim. So basically sending flower is a gushy gesture and may sound fancy but USCIS doesn't work on emotion. If it did, why would they loose thousands of visas each year even though there is rampant backlog and retrogression?
Some members say well, flowers will attract media attention and hence help our cause. Well, unless Paris Hilton is sending those flowers you won't get much media's attention. Indirect, subtle and passive communication doesn't work in America. That is a cultural issue that these members need to come to grips with fast.
Our goal is to make USCIS accept July applications for AOS for GC. Since USCIS won't do that whats the best way to do it, well to exert external pressure. How is that done. Contact Media, Senators, Congress members and the Judicial system.
Too much babbling on my part, now, I am going to write a journalist requesting more media coverage on our issue.
Best of luck
I will give you a couple of reasons, why I am not supporting this idea, at the same time I won't discourage you from doing it:
Last year when CIR was being discussed in Senate, anti-immigrants sent thousands of bricks to Senator's offices. Bricks build walls, their message was clear, focus on border security first. This was a -ve campaign. It was popular in the right wing media but since CIR passed in Senate. I am presuming this campaign didn't work. The reason it failed was because the idea was to grab headlines but no thought on what after that. No strategy. Lets correlate this with flowers. An officer at USCIS will get these or maybe a dozen people. They will feel good. End of story. They don't have the ability to change the USCIS policy or the July bulletin, which is IV's aim. So basically sending flower is a gushy gesture and may sound fancy but USCIS doesn't work on emotion. If it did, why would they loose thousands of visas each year even though there is rampant backlog and retrogression?
Some members say well, flowers will attract media attention and hence help our cause. Well, unless Paris Hilton is sending those flowers you won't get much media's attention. Indirect, subtle and passive communication doesn't work in America. That is a cultural issue that these members need to come to grips with fast.
Our goal is to make USCIS accept July applications for AOS for GC. Since USCIS won't do that whats the best way to do it, well to exert external pressure. How is that done. Contact Media, Senators, Congress members and the Judicial system.
Too much babbling on my part, now, I am going to write a journalist requesting more media coverage on our issue.
Best of luck
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ramaonline
09-27 05:27 PM
Name change depends on what exactly you are changing. If it is just the order of first name / last name, then you can get an endorsement in the passport.
Following is fyi based on my experience. I got my spouse's name completely changed in the US (Changed first name, last name, and removed middle name).
Before the change her passport the visa , immigration documents, SSN, Cred card, bank acct, Drivers license, etc were with maiden name and last name.
For name change in the US, I had to go to the local county court and get a name change order. This took a day in my county - may take longer depending on where you live. This court order is enough for updating all docs in the US such as SSN, Credit card, license, acct, etc.
For Indian passport, you need an affidavit and 2 newspaper clippings one in US and one in India. I placed an ad in the classifieds section of the local newspaper (costs $25 - no documents required). For Indian newspaper, I had to send these docs to the classifieds dept of the newspaper:
Local US court order copy with attestation from Indian consulate. (Gazette order is not required.)
After this I got new passport in new name.
For USCIS:
You have to send attested copies of court order copy, Drivers license with new name, and new passport along with copies of past immigraiton documents The records will be updated during the next visa extension. Also submit all future applications in new name with court order copy. USCIS is very well aware of name change situations and it is not an issue.
Following is fyi based on my experience. I got my spouse's name completely changed in the US (Changed first name, last name, and removed middle name).
Before the change her passport the visa , immigration documents, SSN, Cred card, bank acct, Drivers license, etc were with maiden name and last name.
For name change in the US, I had to go to the local county court and get a name change order. This took a day in my county - may take longer depending on where you live. This court order is enough for updating all docs in the US such as SSN, Credit card, license, acct, etc.
For Indian passport, you need an affidavit and 2 newspaper clippings one in US and one in India. I placed an ad in the classifieds section of the local newspaper (costs $25 - no documents required). For Indian newspaper, I had to send these docs to the classifieds dept of the newspaper:
Local US court order copy with attestation from Indian consulate. (Gazette order is not required.)
After this I got new passport in new name.
For USCIS:
You have to send attested copies of court order copy, Drivers license with new name, and new passport along with copies of past immigraiton documents The records will be updated during the next visa extension. Also submit all future applications in new name with court order copy. USCIS is very well aware of name change situations and it is not an issue.
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kumarc123
07-11 12:02 PM
first: my use of an extreme exemple to explain the EB category difference seems to have caused misunderstanding and offence amomg some people. this was not the intention, no slight was intended to anyone. sometimes one uses an extreme situation to make a point (3 yr degree in this case). I was not trying to stereotype and if that is how it came through...here is my humble apology.
i did reply to some of the posters by pm and had some intersting comments/discussion. its one of the nice things about this forum that people bring different insights into a problem...
qvadis, there is fundamental difference between allotting Employment based Gc on the basis of country of birth and based on job classifications/requirements. One happens to pertain to employment, the other is simply a way to mantain ahem "purity".
having said that, i do not favor the removal of country quotas in isolation- the redistribution of dates would make things better for long suffering people but it would not change the overall picture. therefore i support the package in its entirity (as does IV), ie recapture + STEM exemption + removal of country quotas. this would bring in substantially increased numbers and resolve the problem with ROW dates.
now that its established that this thread will not go back to its original intent, do the OPs mind if i close it? may be best to restart the discussion in a new thred?
Hello Pascal
I tend to agree with every word you said, it is not EB2 or EB3, in general it is EB community as a whole. Recapture+STEM+removal of country limit, will help us all a lot. Lets just focus on this chore. And not get swayed away with winning and complaining.
Take care
i did reply to some of the posters by pm and had some intersting comments/discussion. its one of the nice things about this forum that people bring different insights into a problem...
qvadis, there is fundamental difference between allotting Employment based Gc on the basis of country of birth and based on job classifications/requirements. One happens to pertain to employment, the other is simply a way to mantain ahem "purity".
having said that, i do not favor the removal of country quotas in isolation- the redistribution of dates would make things better for long suffering people but it would not change the overall picture. therefore i support the package in its entirity (as does IV), ie recapture + STEM exemption + removal of country quotas. this would bring in substantially increased numbers and resolve the problem with ROW dates.
now that its established that this thread will not go back to its original intent, do the OPs mind if i close it? may be best to restart the discussion in a new thred?
Hello Pascal
I tend to agree with every word you said, it is not EB2 or EB3, in general it is EB community as a whole. Recapture+STEM+removal of country limit, will help us all a lot. Lets just focus on this chore. And not get swayed away with winning and complaining.
Take care
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paskal
12-18 05:17 PM
not sure i succeeded
the title of my post changed
also the thread title has changed- guess someone else did it!
the title of my post changed
also the thread title has changed- guess someone else did it!
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03-26 04:06 PM
Denatured, looks like no one knows the exact answer. It's only the 2nd year we've had the lottery, and last year it was unexpected so not many people had 2 applications in.
If both of your H1s are approved, then I'd imagine you'd receive two approval notices with different company names on it. I believe you'd then have to choose which one you want to use for your visa stamp, and let the other company know you have to turn down their offer. I imagine they won't be happy about it, but it's your right and if you want to be ethical you can offer to refund their H1B filing fees.
I'm not an expert but from what I know the H1B is always issued for a specific person and a specific company. You are able to change the company on that visa, but the company cannot take the visa that was issued to your name and give it to another employee.
If both of your H1s are approved, then I'd imagine you'd receive two approval notices with different company names on it. I believe you'd then have to choose which one you want to use for your visa stamp, and let the other company know you have to turn down their offer. I imagine they won't be happy about it, but it's your right and if you want to be ethical you can offer to refund their H1B filing fees.
I'm not an expert but from what I know the H1B is always issued for a specific person and a specific company. You are able to change the company on that visa, but the company cannot take the visa that was issued to your name and give it to another employee.
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hsd31
06-20 07:37 AM
Akhil,
What I meant was
1. Advertisement in a National Indian News Paper.
2. Advertisement in a USA Local News Paper.
3. An affidavit, issued in India saying name is being changed, signed by the person whose name is being changed.
OR
1. If you are married and have the original marriage certificate AND the certificate was issued from India AND the certificate has the corrected name, then all of the above are not necessary.
I will try to post the format for the ads and the affidavit shortly. Watch this thread.
What I meant was
1. Advertisement in a National Indian News Paper.
2. Advertisement in a USA Local News Paper.
3. An affidavit, issued in India saying name is being changed, signed by the person whose name is being changed.
OR
1. If you are married and have the original marriage certificate AND the certificate was issued from India AND the certificate has the corrected name, then all of the above are not necessary.
I will try to post the format for the ads and the affidavit shortly. Watch this thread.
FraudGultee
04-17 09:07 AM
not a bad idea... but mind you they will be more for undocumented workers
alien007
04-16 01:25 PM
Plainspeak...no one here knows everything abt immigration. so its ok that u lost this argument. we are here to share out experiences, enlighten each other, and work for easing EB backlogs. The fact that theres no one in entire IV that supports ur argument should put some sense into you abt this issue.
and for everyone out there countering plain speak, u know it will never end. i recently saw the sixth sense. the boy says 'they only believe what they want to believe'!
and for everyone out there countering plain speak, u know it will never end. i recently saw the sixth sense. the boy says 'they only believe what they want to believe'!
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