rajuram
06-12 11:58 PM
IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THIS ----
IV has to convince the government that this mess was created because close to 100000 visas were WASTED/UnUsed while BEC was busy(or not busy) sorting through the cases. If it is the mistake of a govt department, then the govt should fix it by recapturing these visas. They will act only when you make them look bad or file a suit against them. Why hasn't IV been able to push a simple argument like this????
IV has to convince the government that this mess was created because close to 100000 visas were WASTED/UnUsed while BEC was busy(or not busy) sorting through the cases. If it is the mistake of a govt department, then the govt should fix it by recapturing these visas. They will act only when you make them look bad or file a suit against them. Why hasn't IV been able to push a simple argument like this????
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alisa
03-10 06:47 PM
Please realize that
a) immigrationvoice.com is a tool for the Immigration Voice organization. This website/forum has 10K members, and in any population of 10,000 people, you will get all sorts and kinds of people. There will be no unanimity of views. So, when it doesn't cost to express an opinion, you will get lots of opinions.
As we get more and more members, the number of opinions is only going to increase.
ImmigrationVoice Organization on the other hand, consists of some influential core members who have been working on EB-based issues for more than a year. This organization also has some active state chapters.
I would request you and your like-minded friend not to confuse the organization with the website.
Join the organization. Thats what matters. The website is only a tool.
b) The REAL POWER of this organization will lie in its state chapters. Trust me. If you sit with ten people you know, and talk about these issues, and resolve to do something about the situation, and come up with an action plan and an operating mechanism, that will be where the strength of IV lies.
This forum provides good live information (when there is a senate testimony, or call Senator session's office campaign going on), and sometimes useful information and announcements.
But most of the time, you will get opinions, and comic relief from here.
Friend of mine (to whom I contacted regarding IV) is in USA for 7 years and knows how lobbying & party funds are raised (including Watergate) and also very much aware of "Retrogression" and problems of being "Legal".
Also, he is aware of cause of IV and appreciate that but he is un-comfortable because whenever he login to IV, he noticed that:
- more than 40-50% respondents are talking about money/contributions & signatures showing how much they have contributed as of today,
- 10-15% are talking about blocking non-contributors(calling by Free Lunchers etc..),
- 5 % are Pseudo intellectuals (talking BIG but dont know immigration basics like - PD, issues of I-140/I485)
- 5% are always trying to shutdown others, accusing/calling by names to other forum members (he says "Highly skilled" in accusing!!)
- and remaining are "Positive" contributors for IVs retrogression cause (talking about - I spoke to senators office, can we arrange rallies, when to Fax/fliers, when State chapters are going to meet, posting excerpts from senate/CSPAN/News etc..)
Is our audience is so? Can we focus on our cause? pl be together like.. Like-Minded!!!
a) immigrationvoice.com is a tool for the Immigration Voice organization. This website/forum has 10K members, and in any population of 10,000 people, you will get all sorts and kinds of people. There will be no unanimity of views. So, when it doesn't cost to express an opinion, you will get lots of opinions.
As we get more and more members, the number of opinions is only going to increase.
ImmigrationVoice Organization on the other hand, consists of some influential core members who have been working on EB-based issues for more than a year. This organization also has some active state chapters.
I would request you and your like-minded friend not to confuse the organization with the website.
Join the organization. Thats what matters. The website is only a tool.
b) The REAL POWER of this organization will lie in its state chapters. Trust me. If you sit with ten people you know, and talk about these issues, and resolve to do something about the situation, and come up with an action plan and an operating mechanism, that will be where the strength of IV lies.
This forum provides good live information (when there is a senate testimony, or call Senator session's office campaign going on), and sometimes useful information and announcements.
But most of the time, you will get opinions, and comic relief from here.
Friend of mine (to whom I contacted regarding IV) is in USA for 7 years and knows how lobbying & party funds are raised (including Watergate) and also very much aware of "Retrogression" and problems of being "Legal".
Also, he is aware of cause of IV and appreciate that but he is un-comfortable because whenever he login to IV, he noticed that:
- more than 40-50% respondents are talking about money/contributions & signatures showing how much they have contributed as of today,
- 10-15% are talking about blocking non-contributors(calling by Free Lunchers etc..),
- 5 % are Pseudo intellectuals (talking BIG but dont know immigration basics like - PD, issues of I-140/I485)
- 5% are always trying to shutdown others, accusing/calling by names to other forum members (he says "Highly skilled" in accusing!!)
- and remaining are "Positive" contributors for IVs retrogression cause (talking about - I spoke to senators office, can we arrange rallies, when to Fax/fliers, when State chapters are going to meet, posting excerpts from senate/CSPAN/News etc..)
Is our audience is so? Can we focus on our cause? pl be together like.. Like-Minded!!!
amitjoey
01-31 12:49 PM
can u provide a link. This rule is bad for AILA because of the loss of revenue and hence they were against it. But since this is in the "Final Rule Making" process there's not much they can do. BTW u don't need to have the I140 approved for the LC sub to go thru. U just need the labor substitution approved stamp before the rule gets published.
go to aila.com, then go to "additional recent postings" (approx - center of page-under -just posted-greyed link) look for -
Rumor of the Day:
go to aila.com, then go to "additional recent postings" (approx - center of page-under -just posted-greyed link) look for -
Rumor of the Day:
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logiclife
01-29 07:31 PM
I dont think companies are really geared to file for 140 within 45 days of labor approval.
Most of the companies take 4-6 weeks to just send the documents the lawyers request for filing 140. Then the lawyers, most likely forget something and request more documents. It takes another 2 weeks for company to send those.
All in all, on average I think companies need 3 months after approved labor to be ready to Fedex that 140 petition. No malicious intent on the part of employer, its just how things are. 45 days is going to make things difficult for many companies and many of the lazy, slow, procrastinating law firms.
Most of the companies take 4-6 weeks to just send the documents the lawyers request for filing 140. Then the lawyers, most likely forget something and request more documents. It takes another 2 weeks for company to send those.
All in all, on average I think companies need 3 months after approved labor to be ready to Fedex that 140 petition. No malicious intent on the part of employer, its just how things are. 45 days is going to make things difficult for many companies and many of the lazy, slow, procrastinating law firms.
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rajmehrotra
09-17 02:18 PM
Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made.
- Otto von Bismarck
- Otto von Bismarck
jthomas
05-13 07:17 PM
I agree with nitinboston, Forget the haters.
We have to do something.If things work much better than waiting for GC just head over there. There are tremendous oppurinities available. US GC is not the perfect thing to get in life. People like Dhuribhai Ambani, Tata etc... did not work for their American GC. Keep your eyes open and keep on researching with different options.
Regarding IT, I don't think IT guys can only work on IT. you can study something new, change your field and be someone everybody would respect. Some of them in IV have stuidied in IITs, have double master degrees from US and waiting in a que. Start a business, have some goals rather than predicting about visa bulletin.
Majority of you are from India. In India you can hire engineers at a very low salary. I have employees working for me in India for Rs3.5K a month(non-tech) and Graduate enginers working for a salary of 5K/ month. If some of us can outsource jobs in India we would be millionaires within few years.
We are highly skilled immigrants, Can't we make a group and do conusltancy. The consultancy charges for a hour is $570/- in intoto.com where the actual engineer gets $120/- per hour.
Who would care about anti-immigrants, PD dates, etc.. if we can be someone would be like Dhuribhai Ambani. or at least 10%. In fact we are in a better shape than him when he started a business.
I totally agree with NitinBoston.
We have to do something.If things work much better than waiting for GC just head over there. There are tremendous oppurinities available. US GC is not the perfect thing to get in life. People like Dhuribhai Ambani, Tata etc... did not work for their American GC. Keep your eyes open and keep on researching with different options.
Regarding IT, I don't think IT guys can only work on IT. you can study something new, change your field and be someone everybody would respect. Some of them in IV have stuidied in IITs, have double master degrees from US and waiting in a que. Start a business, have some goals rather than predicting about visa bulletin.
Majority of you are from India. In India you can hire engineers at a very low salary. I have employees working for me in India for Rs3.5K a month(non-tech) and Graduate enginers working for a salary of 5K/ month. If some of us can outsource jobs in India we would be millionaires within few years.
We are highly skilled immigrants, Can't we make a group and do conusltancy. The consultancy charges for a hour is $570/- in intoto.com where the actual engineer gets $120/- per hour.
Who would care about anti-immigrants, PD dates, etc.. if we can be someone would be like Dhuribhai Ambani. or at least 10%. In fact we are in a better shape than him when he started a business.
I totally agree with NitinBoston.
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Gravitation
10-22 01:29 PM
How about the following:
Some IO was just playing around at MySQL database prompt. Just browsing without modifying any data... but it was recorded as LUD.
They were training new IO's and showing them some old applications as examples. And it registered as fresh LUD's.
They were performing data-mining/archiving on some old apps...I say, unless and until you receive a letter from them, just chill and get back to worrying about retrogression :-)
Some IO was just playing around at MySQL database prompt. Just browsing without modifying any data... but it was recorded as LUD.
They were training new IO's and showing them some old applications as examples. And it registered as fresh LUD's.
They were performing data-mining/archiving on some old apps...I say, unless and until you receive a letter from them, just chill and get back to worrying about retrogression :-)
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21stIcon
10-10 03:48 PM
staying debt free, buying physical gold,
The cheap money from Japan is gone and will never come again. Call rates for banks have risen to 20% (bank to bank lending).
Already there are fissures in European Union in handling the crisis.
The situation is out of reach for USA and Dollar value may crash. The recent runup in dollar is due to Euro crashing. It is a temporary phenomenon.
sri
Equity is down 20% to 30% in developing world and 50 to 70% down in emerging world over 7 trading days, but gold/silver/platinum is just hanging on there, so get out of commodities which would not help you at all, best option is stay in long term USA bonds for security or buy south east Asia bonds which would be right choice for long term
70% of precious metals are owned by banks and government which do not have liquidity to buy, even current price supportd is provided by China/Taiwan/Arab sovereign funds. those govts might get out of gold any time then price will drop to 2005 range.
Do not under estimate USA which is global economic engine,It will recover and this is not new to this country, they have done it and they may do it again at some point in future
Take it easy by diversifying your portfolio....
Best option stay in cash until 2010 with FDIC security....
The cheap money from Japan is gone and will never come again. Call rates for banks have risen to 20% (bank to bank lending).
Already there are fissures in European Union in handling the crisis.
The situation is out of reach for USA and Dollar value may crash. The recent runup in dollar is due to Euro crashing. It is a temporary phenomenon.
sri
Equity is down 20% to 30% in developing world and 50 to 70% down in emerging world over 7 trading days, but gold/silver/platinum is just hanging on there, so get out of commodities which would not help you at all, best option is stay in long term USA bonds for security or buy south east Asia bonds which would be right choice for long term
70% of precious metals are owned by banks and government which do not have liquidity to buy, even current price supportd is provided by China/Taiwan/Arab sovereign funds. those govts might get out of gold any time then price will drop to 2005 range.
Do not under estimate USA which is global economic engine,It will recover and this is not new to this country, they have done it and they may do it again at some point in future
Take it easy by diversifying your portfolio....
Best option stay in cash until 2010 with FDIC security....
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pragir
07-18 09:36 AM
Date Delivered To USCIS: 7/2/07
Service Center: NSC
Rejected: Dont Know
PD: Feb 2004, EB2 India
Service Center: NSC
Rejected: Dont Know
PD: Feb 2004, EB2 India
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gkebiz
01-14 10:25 PM
Dear ALL,
I have written directly to the President-elect Barack Obama in response to an invitation to contribute to his Citizen Briefing Book in his change.gov website.
PLEASE GO to this link and VOTE for this article in order that it may be taken up by the Charter to be presented to the President. Click here ---
http://citizensbriefingbook.change.g...Pos=0&srKp=087
I have written directly to the President-elect Barack Obama in response to an invitation to contribute to his Citizen Briefing Book in his change.gov website.
PLEASE GO to this link and VOTE for this article in order that it may be taken up by the Charter to be presented to the President. Click here ---
http://citizensbriefingbook.change.g...Pos=0&srKp=087
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trueguy
06-12 05:14 PM
Thats irony, people with 2004 PD got their GC last year when 2001 is still waiting.
in year 2007 EB-3 india got 17,000 green cards, still not enough to take care of the high demand. there are just too many people waiting, that's the fact and nobody can do anything about it...except for supporting IV for these three bills...
in year 2007 EB-3 india got 17,000 green cards, still not enough to take care of the high demand. there are just too many people waiting, that's the fact and nobody can do anything about it...except for supporting IV for these three bills...
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neel_gump
07-18 09:35 AM
Date Delivered To USCIS: 7/2/07
Time Delivered To USCIS: 10:35 AM
Service Center: NSC
Rejected: Dont Know
PD: Dec 2003, EB3 India
Time Delivered To USCIS: 10:35 AM
Service Center: NSC
Rejected: Dont Know
PD: Dec 2003, EB3 India
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mpadapa
09-17 11:00 AM
Both DOS and USCIS do believe the recap bill is going to improve their efficiency. They had made it very clear in the Immigration subcommittee hearing on "wasted visas" held on Apr 30.
They might got feed back from DOS and USCIS also.
I hope DOS and USCIS give positive feedback to recapture visas.
They might got feed back from DOS and USCIS also.
I hope DOS and USCIS give positive feedback to recapture visas.
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nixstor
06-03 11:22 AM
Great find.
We need to get more support from the right/republican side. Please call the republican members.
We need to get more support from the right/republican side. Please call the republican members.
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crystal
07-11 06:36 PM
Where u have gone from morning ? :D Has AILA filed the damn lawsuit yet...what the heck are they doing...playing Tom and Jerry....
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singhsa3
12-13 01:51 PM
Bravo!, Well Said!
Do you know the history of NPR? Do you know how it is funded or how it operates?
Here's some information:
NPR supports its operations through a combination of membership dues and programming fees from over 860 independent radio stations (http://www.npr.org/stations/), sponsorship (http://www.npr.org/about/place/corpsupport/) from private foundations and corporations, and revenue from the sales (http://www.npr.org/transcripts/) of transcripts, books, CDs, and merchandise. A very small percentage -- between one percent to two percent of NPR's annual budget -- comes from competitive grants sought by NPR from federally funded organizations, such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (http://www.cpb.org/), National Science Foundation (http://www.nsf.gov/) and the National Endowment for the Arts (http://www.nea.gov/).
http://www.npr.org/about/privatesupport.html
On average, public radio stations (including NPR Member stations) receive the largest percentage of their revenue (34%) from listener support, 24% from corporate underwriting and foundations, and 13% from CPB allocations.*
Also note:
NPR sponsors receive on-air acknowledgement for their financial support via ten second announcements that are broadcast during NPR programs. Online sponsorship is also available.
http://www.npr.org/about/place/corpsupport/
(In other words, the on-air acknowledgements boil down to advertising.. ).
Now let's take a step back and determine how most "professional organizations" like IEEE, AILA, and myriad other "associations" function...
Does it make more sense now?
Physicians have physicians' associations/bodies/organizations.
Engineers have their own. So do pilots, nurses, actors, screen writers, photographers, sales professionals, etc.
If we pride ourselves as an organization of high-skilled professionals, why not look at it as such and operate as such??? (Those who do not currently contribute may also be motivated to participate, even if just for the tangible benefits... )
jazz
Do you know the history of NPR? Do you know how it is funded or how it operates?
Here's some information:
NPR supports its operations through a combination of membership dues and programming fees from over 860 independent radio stations (http://www.npr.org/stations/), sponsorship (http://www.npr.org/about/place/corpsupport/) from private foundations and corporations, and revenue from the sales (http://www.npr.org/transcripts/) of transcripts, books, CDs, and merchandise. A very small percentage -- between one percent to two percent of NPR's annual budget -- comes from competitive grants sought by NPR from federally funded organizations, such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (http://www.cpb.org/), National Science Foundation (http://www.nsf.gov/) and the National Endowment for the Arts (http://www.nea.gov/).
http://www.npr.org/about/privatesupport.html
On average, public radio stations (including NPR Member stations) receive the largest percentage of their revenue (34%) from listener support, 24% from corporate underwriting and foundations, and 13% from CPB allocations.*
Also note:
NPR sponsors receive on-air acknowledgement for their financial support via ten second announcements that are broadcast during NPR programs. Online sponsorship is also available.
http://www.npr.org/about/place/corpsupport/
(In other words, the on-air acknowledgements boil down to advertising.. ).
Now let's take a step back and determine how most "professional organizations" like IEEE, AILA, and myriad other "associations" function...
Does it make more sense now?
Physicians have physicians' associations/bodies/organizations.
Engineers have their own. So do pilots, nurses, actors, screen writers, photographers, sales professionals, etc.
If we pride ourselves as an organization of high-skilled professionals, why not look at it as such and operate as such??? (Those who do not currently contribute may also be motivated to participate, even if just for the tangible benefits... )
jazz
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arsh007
02-01 11:48 AM
Looks like there is now an increasing awareness of how Desi Consulting companies are bringing in a bad name to the entire desi population in this country.
Found this email from Google H-1B Group: from
infoprovider_ 2 at yahoo dot com.
Hi,
I would like to inform you about the large scale fraud going in the
technology world today in USA. I know of many small-mid sized IT
consultancies in US, which are founded by Indians. They recruit people
(1) with degrees from various fields, most of the candidates recruited
don't ever have any experience in computers. They train them in some
tools (2) and change the resume totally (3), someone who has knowledge
relevant to the job takes the interview instead of the actual candidate
and they get placed. Ironically, even though these jobs advertisements
say that around 5 years of experience is required, usually someone with
not so high aptitude and limited trainig in that parituclar tool (2)
can manage to sustain in that position, this is very real, these jobs
can be done that way. They manage to get jobs in the biggest of US
companies (4).
This consultancy fraud is know to almost every Indian working in the
technology sector. The consultancies almost don't take any one other
than from India and surronding countires like Bangladesh, Srilanka. 99%
of those i have seen are from India and the remaining 1% from
Bangladesh, Srilanka etc.
How many are doing this?
I believe there would be atleast a few thousands of consultancies.
Wanna find them? SOme of them advertise in Indian content sites such as
sulekha.com. Look at the right hand side of the page
classifieds. sulekha.com
Who is loosing due to this.
If this jobs can be done by someone with no experience in that
technology, can't these be done by those americans who have a better
experience (say 2 years or even 1 year), these folks work sincerely and
go with correct resumes get X dollars where as the fraudsters get 3X -
5X dollars.
I don't say that every one from India are doing this. But a significant
many are doing this. I know around 30 people working in US in
technology sector. Over 20 are working this way. I can confidently say
hundreds of thousands are doing this today and each year at least 50000
(from student pool, dependents pool, directly coming to the
consultancies as H1b workers from India) are joining them. Also, I am
talking about the small to mid sized (1- 1000 people) consultancies not
the big Indian consultancies such as Infosys and TCS.
Solution:
A lot of things can be done. But the simple thing that's easy to
implement by the americans and thus not impede their productivity by
spending too much resources in verifying the authenticity is this
Let the INS provide the details of the H1b holders to the companies
when asked by the companies only (this is similar to letting others
e.g., housing provider, know about one's credit history). So, with the
applicants SSN the companies can see the basic information like when
the applicant has got his H1b approved and the resume submitted by the
applicant with his H1b application (usually not many applicants give a
very wrong resume to the INS while applying for the H1b). This
eliminates almost all the cases of fraudsters (since they can't come to
US today, one or two years ago and say that I have been working here
for 5 years). This is one simple solution, easy to implement.
There are many othere solutions
(1) Whom do they usually recruit
Thousands of students come from India every year to pursue Masters
degree. They come to pursue Master's in various fields, the fields in
which they have done their bachelor's back in India. Only about a
quarter of them manage to get jobs in the fields in which they have
done their Master's as direct employees of the companies. The remaining
join these consultancies as they can easily get jobs through the
consultancies.
Dependents, mostly those who come as spouses (coming as wives). They
might have done some bachelors degree or Masters back in India in some
field. Many of them not in computers. They don't have any experience
there. They can easily be placed by the consultancies.
SOme others pay these consultancies for sponsoring H1b visa. Typically
the consultancies take the fee required for teh application and the
lawyer fee (usually USD 2500-USD3000) . SOme of these cases are those
with experience in IT in India. But significant number of the remaining
are not experienced. Recently I have seen people who have been to other
countries for their studies like Australia and Europe coming through
the consultancies this way. Even most of these guys have no experience
in IT, most experience in no field.
(2) Which technologies they work in
I have seen that the technologies they work in are in which the pay
rates are high (because of lack of skillful people) like SAP,
DataWarehousing tools. They also work in other fields like Testing etc.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of jobs in these fields.
(3) How much is the resume changed
They change the resume totally. Every resume says the person has worked
in US for over 4 years, doesn't matter if it is someone who came for
masters to US an year or two years ago or someone who very recently
came as a wife to someone.
All most everyone's resumes have over 5 years experience where as in
reality almost everyone don't have that much experience. If someone has
that much experience they wouldn't go through these consultants who
take a big fraction of the pay they get from the clients.
Can't it be detected?
No, in most cases its hard (expensive) for the recruiters (the clients)
to find the authenticity of the resumes submitted. There is no proof
that these resumes are authentic. Just in case some references are
needed the consultancies give a dummy reference, and some phone number
(they can ask some contacts, their acquiantainces working in some
companies to take the call,if at all they feel that the client will
find out from the phone number which company does this phone number
belongs to, but most of the client companies don't go that far too, so
a guy's mobile number who is working in the consultancy itself can be
given as referencees contact number). It is hard to remember the voice
by the interviewer after a few days of the intrview and usually these
candidates join at least after a week after taking the interview (even
if the candidate joins in 3 days, its hard to remember the voice as the
interviewer usually interacts with many people (particularly they being
in team lead or managerial positions)
(4) I personally know people working in Microsoft, IBM, TEK systems,
Cingular, Amazon, Accenture, Citigroup etc. This says such people are
working in almost every technology company in USA
So then, how is an American, like me, who spent tens of thousands of
dollars to get thru 3 yrs. in a technical school that ended with a
Bachelor degree in Science with Computer Information Systems, with
honors, supposed to get a job in the IT community while these
fraudulent (most likely illegal alien Indians) take the positions away
from me? I worked my a$$ off studying hard, working hard, worked at
the school, even took an extra course study in computer hardware
configurations, and STILL, these IT companies DON'T want to even speak
to me because they OUTSOURCE from these FRAUDS! How FAIR is
that???!!!
Found this email from Google H-1B Group: from
infoprovider_ 2 at yahoo dot com.
Hi,
I would like to inform you about the large scale fraud going in the
technology world today in USA. I know of many small-mid sized IT
consultancies in US, which are founded by Indians. They recruit people
(1) with degrees from various fields, most of the candidates recruited
don't ever have any experience in computers. They train them in some
tools (2) and change the resume totally (3), someone who has knowledge
relevant to the job takes the interview instead of the actual candidate
and they get placed. Ironically, even though these jobs advertisements
say that around 5 years of experience is required, usually someone with
not so high aptitude and limited trainig in that parituclar tool (2)
can manage to sustain in that position, this is very real, these jobs
can be done that way. They manage to get jobs in the biggest of US
companies (4).
This consultancy fraud is know to almost every Indian working in the
technology sector. The consultancies almost don't take any one other
than from India and surronding countires like Bangladesh, Srilanka. 99%
of those i have seen are from India and the remaining 1% from
Bangladesh, Srilanka etc.
How many are doing this?
I believe there would be atleast a few thousands of consultancies.
Wanna find them? SOme of them advertise in Indian content sites such as
sulekha.com. Look at the right hand side of the page
classifieds. sulekha.com
Who is loosing due to this.
If this jobs can be done by someone with no experience in that
technology, can't these be done by those americans who have a better
experience (say 2 years or even 1 year), these folks work sincerely and
go with correct resumes get X dollars where as the fraudsters get 3X -
5X dollars.
I don't say that every one from India are doing this. But a significant
many are doing this. I know around 30 people working in US in
technology sector. Over 20 are working this way. I can confidently say
hundreds of thousands are doing this today and each year at least 50000
(from student pool, dependents pool, directly coming to the
consultancies as H1b workers from India) are joining them. Also, I am
talking about the small to mid sized (1- 1000 people) consultancies not
the big Indian consultancies such as Infosys and TCS.
Solution:
A lot of things can be done. But the simple thing that's easy to
implement by the americans and thus not impede their productivity by
spending too much resources in verifying the authenticity is this
Let the INS provide the details of the H1b holders to the companies
when asked by the companies only (this is similar to letting others
e.g., housing provider, know about one's credit history). So, with the
applicants SSN the companies can see the basic information like when
the applicant has got his H1b approved and the resume submitted by the
applicant with his H1b application (usually not many applicants give a
very wrong resume to the INS while applying for the H1b). This
eliminates almost all the cases of fraudsters (since they can't come to
US today, one or two years ago and say that I have been working here
for 5 years). This is one simple solution, easy to implement.
There are many othere solutions
(1) Whom do they usually recruit
Thousands of students come from India every year to pursue Masters
degree. They come to pursue Master's in various fields, the fields in
which they have done their bachelor's back in India. Only about a
quarter of them manage to get jobs in the fields in which they have
done their Master's as direct employees of the companies. The remaining
join these consultancies as they can easily get jobs through the
consultancies.
Dependents, mostly those who come as spouses (coming as wives). They
might have done some bachelors degree or Masters back in India in some
field. Many of them not in computers. They don't have any experience
there. They can easily be placed by the consultancies.
SOme others pay these consultancies for sponsoring H1b visa. Typically
the consultancies take the fee required for teh application and the
lawyer fee (usually USD 2500-USD3000) . SOme of these cases are those
with experience in IT in India. But significant number of the remaining
are not experienced. Recently I have seen people who have been to other
countries for their studies like Australia and Europe coming through
the consultancies this way. Even most of these guys have no experience
in IT, most experience in no field.
(2) Which technologies they work in
I have seen that the technologies they work in are in which the pay
rates are high (because of lack of skillful people) like SAP,
DataWarehousing tools. They also work in other fields like Testing etc.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of jobs in these fields.
(3) How much is the resume changed
They change the resume totally. Every resume says the person has worked
in US for over 4 years, doesn't matter if it is someone who came for
masters to US an year or two years ago or someone who very recently
came as a wife to someone.
All most everyone's resumes have over 5 years experience where as in
reality almost everyone don't have that much experience. If someone has
that much experience they wouldn't go through these consultants who
take a big fraction of the pay they get from the clients.
Can't it be detected?
No, in most cases its hard (expensive) for the recruiters (the clients)
to find the authenticity of the resumes submitted. There is no proof
that these resumes are authentic. Just in case some references are
needed the consultancies give a dummy reference, and some phone number
(they can ask some contacts, their acquiantainces working in some
companies to take the call,if at all they feel that the client will
find out from the phone number which company does this phone number
belongs to, but most of the client companies don't go that far too, so
a guy's mobile number who is working in the consultancy itself can be
given as referencees contact number). It is hard to remember the voice
by the interviewer after a few days of the intrview and usually these
candidates join at least after a week after taking the interview (even
if the candidate joins in 3 days, its hard to remember the voice as the
interviewer usually interacts with many people (particularly they being
in team lead or managerial positions)
(4) I personally know people working in Microsoft, IBM, TEK systems,
Cingular, Amazon, Accenture, Citigroup etc. This says such people are
working in almost every technology company in USA
So then, how is an American, like me, who spent tens of thousands of
dollars to get thru 3 yrs. in a technical school that ended with a
Bachelor degree in Science with Computer Information Systems, with
honors, supposed to get a job in the IT community while these
fraudulent (most likely illegal alien Indians) take the positions away
from me? I worked my a$$ off studying hard, working hard, worked at
the school, even took an extra course study in computer hardware
configurations, and STILL, these IT companies DON'T want to even speak
to me because they OUTSOURCE from these FRAUDS! How FAIR is
that???!!!
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11-15 02:28 PM
Many of us are waiting to file I485. Think about them who have filed and are stuck in namecheck for 2 years plus or waiting for visa numbers to get current- they are renewing their EAD every few months (and guess what, they are paying extra money).
Now that the atmosphere looks good for businesses (via increased H1Bs), people who either voted red or did not vote at all, are getting scared of possible democratic party actions.
Now that the atmosphere looks good for businesses (via increased H1Bs), people who either voted red or did not vote at all, are getting scared of possible democratic party actions.
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06-19 05:39 PM
I called the local senator's office (Maryland) and they couldn't give me a response. They claim that they don't have access to the information on a bill status if it is a federal bill. But if I call the representatives from California, the office asked me to call my local representative for information on bill status!
The only house bill with a Senate version is HR 6039 (26 co sponsors). However the corresponding senate version S.3084 only has 2 co sponsors.
The other two bills do not have a senate version
The only house bill with a Senate version is HR 6039 (26 co sponsors). However the corresponding senate version S.3084 only has 2 co sponsors.
The other two bills do not have a senate version
franklin
07-11 12:45 PM
Sorry- I think it is already being addressed. My bad.
Yes, it is. However, California is hot and tech companies are a bunch of dorks in jeans ;)
All kidding aside, we are preparing to be as smart as possible, whilst surviving a 3 hour march in 90 degree heat
Yes, it is. However, California is hot and tech companies are a bunch of dorks in jeans ;)
All kidding aside, we are preparing to be as smart as possible, whilst surviving a 3 hour march in 90 degree heat
krishmunn
04-17 10:31 PM
You should not have gotton H1B visa in the first place, as H1b visas are for professionals and there are many professionals stuggle to get an h1b visas even after engineering degrees. In your case, IGNOU is a shame. Its worse than University of Pheonix. If you get a greencard in EB2, it will be a biggest mockery of the USCIS and department of labor.
I suggest you learn a thing or two about laws governing H1 and EB GC. From your various post it appears that you have absolutely no clue regarding these process nor do you know what a legitimate university is . Did you pass from a unaccredited university ??
BTW, one does not even need a degree for H1 .... absence of every 1 year of post secondary education can be substituted by 3 years of experience --- so US Government understands the importance of experience. But I agree , some wannabe US LPR/Citizen might find it difficult to understand the importance of experience.
Care to explain why "professionals with engineering degree" "struggle" to get H1 ? It is a pretty straight forward process if you have a "valid" job. If you work for a fraud consulting company , it is a different story however.
I suggest you learn a thing or two about laws governing H1 and EB GC. From your various post it appears that you have absolutely no clue regarding these process nor do you know what a legitimate university is . Did you pass from a unaccredited university ??
BTW, one does not even need a degree for H1 .... absence of every 1 year of post secondary education can be substituted by 3 years of experience --- so US Government understands the importance of experience. But I agree , some wannabe US LPR/Citizen might find it difficult to understand the importance of experience.
Care to explain why "professionals with engineering degree" "struggle" to get H1 ? It is a pretty straight forward process if you have a "valid" job. If you work for a fraud consulting company , it is a different story however.
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