ameryki
11-11 01:14 PM
Hello guys,
Sorry for this non-immigration related post. We have this sudden, tragic situation that I wanted all of your advice on. Thank you for your time in reading this long post.
We had hired an Indian nanny in NJ who, we learnt after hiring her, is here on a tourist visa. We were paying her $350 per week cash, which is the standard rate around here for nannies (incl. citizens and people on GC). We had liked her when we met her in response to an ad on Sulekha, and we thought an Indian nanny would be good for our first child. She has been with us for about 3 months, and we were intermittently not getting a good feeling with her for some reason. We finally bought a small security camera and installed it yesterday. On the very first day with the camera, we came home and saw the recorded video to find that she is violently hitting the baby on two separate occasions. Needless to say, it has shocked, angered and extremely saddened us. I showed the video to a couple of friends and even they say it is unbearable to watch. This was just the first day of recording and it pains us tremendously to think what all may have happened previously.
She is of course not going to stay with the baby alone anymore, but I want to know what legal options I have to penalize her to the fullest extent, so that she does not do this to anybody else�s small babies. She it seems had come here last year and taken care of someone else�s baby in Hoboken, and I can imagine that their baby also went through this. (This woman and her husband are a ~ 35 year old couple, who have a multiple entry ten year tourist visa; both come here for 6 months every year and work odd jobs like this. They apparently got a (unsponsored) tourist visa after showing a lot of landed property in India).
I specifically want to know if I will have potential problems if I go to law enforcement about this- regarding have employed her (both of us are on H1B visas). I know we have made mistakes and should have done better due diligence in this, and there cannot be any more punishment for us than seeing our 8 month old � who cannot tell us about it when we come home- being beaten on the tapes. We saw this yesterday and have not told her yet. We want to weigh all options before we proceed, but from today onwards one of us is home all the time till Friday. Any advice or opinion is sincerely appreciated. Thanks for reading this long post. And, to all who are thinking of nannies or have one, please learn from our mistakes and closely monitor your child�s safety every day.
As a parent of a 6 month old I can imagine what you are feeling. At the sametime given the circumstances I would not recommend you considering any legal action. Given the fact that you are aware that she is illegally working and that you were paying her cash weekly etc will only create trouble for you. I realize its hard for you to let this go considering its your own little baby but in the long run it will help you and your family. Kick the lady out of the house and tell her if you ever see her around your neighborhood you will have her arrested for assault.
Sorry for this non-immigration related post. We have this sudden, tragic situation that I wanted all of your advice on. Thank you for your time in reading this long post.
We had hired an Indian nanny in NJ who, we learnt after hiring her, is here on a tourist visa. We were paying her $350 per week cash, which is the standard rate around here for nannies (incl. citizens and people on GC). We had liked her when we met her in response to an ad on Sulekha, and we thought an Indian nanny would be good for our first child. She has been with us for about 3 months, and we were intermittently not getting a good feeling with her for some reason. We finally bought a small security camera and installed it yesterday. On the very first day with the camera, we came home and saw the recorded video to find that she is violently hitting the baby on two separate occasions. Needless to say, it has shocked, angered and extremely saddened us. I showed the video to a couple of friends and even they say it is unbearable to watch. This was just the first day of recording and it pains us tremendously to think what all may have happened previously.
She is of course not going to stay with the baby alone anymore, but I want to know what legal options I have to penalize her to the fullest extent, so that she does not do this to anybody else�s small babies. She it seems had come here last year and taken care of someone else�s baby in Hoboken, and I can imagine that their baby also went through this. (This woman and her husband are a ~ 35 year old couple, who have a multiple entry ten year tourist visa; both come here for 6 months every year and work odd jobs like this. They apparently got a (unsponsored) tourist visa after showing a lot of landed property in India).
I specifically want to know if I will have potential problems if I go to law enforcement about this- regarding have employed her (both of us are on H1B visas). I know we have made mistakes and should have done better due diligence in this, and there cannot be any more punishment for us than seeing our 8 month old � who cannot tell us about it when we come home- being beaten on the tapes. We saw this yesterday and have not told her yet. We want to weigh all options before we proceed, but from today onwards one of us is home all the time till Friday. Any advice or opinion is sincerely appreciated. Thanks for reading this long post. And, to all who are thinking of nannies or have one, please learn from our mistakes and closely monitor your child�s safety every day.
As a parent of a 6 month old I can imagine what you are feeling. At the sametime given the circumstances I would not recommend you considering any legal action. Given the fact that you are aware that she is illegally working and that you were paying her cash weekly etc will only create trouble for you. I realize its hard for you to let this go considering its your own little baby but in the long run it will help you and your family. Kick the lady out of the house and tell her if you ever see her around your neighborhood you will have her arrested for assault.
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msp1976
02-04 05:38 AM
Originally Posted by chanduv23
According to a specialist on immigration forums "Mr UnitedNations" the unused visas are directly being used for EB3 ROW , I am not how he knows that but maybe thats what is happening.
Maybe EB3 ROW being a diverse group is being given more precendence than highly subscribed countries.
Your posts are getting very irritating with this blind belief in this "Unitednations" fellow. Why do you believe in him so much? What has he done?
It is true that all EB1/EB2 overflow visas at this point and in the next few months would get used for EB3 ROW...If and when EB3 ROW becomes current, at that point the overflow visas would be used for EB3 China/India...
That is because the country cap 7% and 5% for dependents is already satisfied for China/India....
You have to understand the caps work in a complicated way..
total EB cap 140K
EB5 - 7.1% anything not used flows downward in the list..
EB4 - 7.1% anything not used flows downward in the list
EB1 - 28.6% anything not used flows downward in the list
EB2 - 28.6% anything not used flows downward in the list
EB3 - 28.6% nothing usually left...Anything left is not used ... Those are the unused numbers everyone wants to recpature....
Schedule A Workers: Employment First, Second, and Third preference Schedule A applicants are entitled to up to 50,000 “recaptured” numbers. These are folks from medical occupations...nurses etc...
In addition to this there is a country cap of 7% for principal and 5% for dependents..
Let's not get irritated...Please concentrate on the information and not the person...
According to a specialist on immigration forums "Mr UnitedNations" the unused visas are directly being used for EB3 ROW , I am not how he knows that but maybe thats what is happening.
Maybe EB3 ROW being a diverse group is being given more precendence than highly subscribed countries.
Your posts are getting very irritating with this blind belief in this "Unitednations" fellow. Why do you believe in him so much? What has he done?
It is true that all EB1/EB2 overflow visas at this point and in the next few months would get used for EB3 ROW...If and when EB3 ROW becomes current, at that point the overflow visas would be used for EB3 China/India...
That is because the country cap 7% and 5% for dependents is already satisfied for China/India....
You have to understand the caps work in a complicated way..
total EB cap 140K
EB5 - 7.1% anything not used flows downward in the list..
EB4 - 7.1% anything not used flows downward in the list
EB1 - 28.6% anything not used flows downward in the list
EB2 - 28.6% anything not used flows downward in the list
EB3 - 28.6% nothing usually left...Anything left is not used ... Those are the unused numbers everyone wants to recpature....
Schedule A Workers: Employment First, Second, and Third preference Schedule A applicants are entitled to up to 50,000 “recaptured” numbers. These are folks from medical occupations...nurses etc...
In addition to this there is a country cap of 7% for principal and 5% for dependents..
Let's not get irritated...Please concentrate on the information and not the person...
acepb
08-28 02:01 AM
thanks for sharing this. It gives us all a lot of insight.
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Gravitation
02-02 06:22 PM
According to a specialist on immigration forums "Mr UnitedNations" the unused visas are directly being used for EB3 ROW , I am not how he knows that but maybe thats what is happening.
Maybe EB3 ROW being a diverse group is being given more precendence than highly subscribed countries.
This information was there on a visa bulletin. This is not a guess but a confirmed fact.
Maybe EB3 ROW being a diverse group is being given more precendence than highly subscribed countries.
This information was there on a visa bulletin. This is not a guess but a confirmed fact.
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sugaur
12-07 10:22 AM
Saguar, this is not a simple issue and we cannot just this as an independent event. Yes these people are here ilegally but what do they do; work. Yes they work for meagre wages and reduce the price of commodities which would otherwise need to be imported from elsewhere. Now we have heard that due to some of the raids innocent children were torn apart from their parents who never came back from work. children came back from school to learn that they will never see their parents again. whole towns, churches and communities cried out in anguish when such events happen. The pain is tremendous. when you allow a problem to get so deep rooted into the society often the best way to handle it is to first accept it and then plan carefully. You cannot suddenly start deporting a minor fraction of these folks who have indeed contributed to the economy directly/indirectly. You can import cheap goods from other countries but people are now realizing that it is better to import labor and have work done here. This raids and intolerance has an element of hatred mixed in and it is not only about "law". Churches came forward to hide and protect the children who were affected by the raids. shouldn't the children be evicted too??
I equate the situation to a person who sneaks into your house at night and in the morning demands that you respect his human rights and provide him with food and water. No one would tolerate that, yet some how some people think thats ok when it comes to the countries borders.
The church encourages it as most of the illegals are catholics. Poor and illeterate people are usually more likely to attend church and contributes to the churches influence. Believe me, were the Mexicans muslims, Jews or Hindus the church wouldnt care and would probably oppose it. The mosques and temples on the other hand might step in..............
Regarding the children, please understand why they are in this situation. Due to the choices made by their parents.
I think you and I can agree that illegals need to be treated with dignity. But they should not be coddled. . A US citizen who commits burglary, driving without a license, outstanding fines could easily be facing a jail term. The article wants you to feel outraged because her leg was shackled? Please read the headline again. Their strategy is to demonize the law enforcement when ever they try to enforce the law against illegals.
Yes the problem is deep seated and complicated. Giving amnesty would make them all legal, so the problem goes away! Just like you hear some people talk about drugs. Lets make all drugs legal, so the problem of illegal drugs will go away! What kind of solution is that?
I equate the situation to a person who sneaks into your house at night and in the morning demands that you respect his human rights and provide him with food and water. No one would tolerate that, yet some how some people think thats ok when it comes to the countries borders.
The church encourages it as most of the illegals are catholics. Poor and illeterate people are usually more likely to attend church and contributes to the churches influence. Believe me, were the Mexicans muslims, Jews or Hindus the church wouldnt care and would probably oppose it. The mosques and temples on the other hand might step in..............
Regarding the children, please understand why they are in this situation. Due to the choices made by their parents.
I think you and I can agree that illegals need to be treated with dignity. But they should not be coddled. . A US citizen who commits burglary, driving without a license, outstanding fines could easily be facing a jail term. The article wants you to feel outraged because her leg was shackled? Please read the headline again. Their strategy is to demonize the law enforcement when ever they try to enforce the law against illegals.
Yes the problem is deep seated and complicated. Giving amnesty would make them all legal, so the problem goes away! Just like you hear some people talk about drugs. Lets make all drugs legal, so the problem of illegal drugs will go away! What kind of solution is that?
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07-17 06:59 PM
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03-07 02:34 PM
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12-18 05:17 PM
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sweet_jungle
09-05 04:26 PM
All people affected by USCIS blocking approvals for current people, lets get organized.
This time USCIS is hiding by not making official announcements.
We need to act as we did last July.
Lets send letters to congressman like zoe lofgren.
NSC is issuing frivolous RFEs as delaying tactics.
I am not seeing similar outrage as we saw last year.
The time to act is now.
This time USCIS is hiding by not making official announcements.
We need to act as we did last July.
Lets send letters to congressman like zoe lofgren.
NSC is issuing frivolous RFEs as delaying tactics.
I am not seeing similar outrage as we saw last year.
The time to act is now.
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sugaur
12-09 02:40 PM
[QUOTE=hoolahoous;1136226]sorry but DOL's is not my theory. Looks like you never seem to have seen a child birth. It is an ACTUAL unit.
Have YOU read the article you just quoted? It clearly says this is not in widespread use. Pain is SUBJECTIVE. I hope you know what subjective means.
also if everyone goes through same amount of pain, that doesn't reduce the intensity.
Yes it does. Because intensity of pain is perceived differently by different people. Just like Joy and pleasure are subjective.
Let me ask you once you get laid off when your wife is pregnant. I am sure that you know that as soon as you are off the job on H1, unless you had AOS, you are ILLEGAL from same instant. Let me see where your principals hold. Status is a piece of paper which is created by human.
In the remote circumstance that, that ever happens to me, i will follow the law and NOT DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL. Would you stay here illegally in such a circumstance? That makes you a "latent illegal". No wonder you sympathize with them.
And imagine tying the hands to a bar when delivering a baby. I wonder we complaint about cramped seats in plane when flying to India (unless you fly business class, then probably you don't need GC) but think that chained to bed when delivering a baby is perfectly okay !
A repeat violator of the law needs to be shackled. Just because she is pregnant doesnt mean she is a saint.
There is a law for illegals and they should get the punishment (deported), but that doesn't mean we should go out of way to device our own punishments to 'teach a lesson' to 'these illegals'. There are some basic Human rights. Even POW's are supposed to be treated with those human rights.[/QUOTEe.
Human rights? This repeated violator of the law was taken to a hospital, FREE OF CHARGE. She got all the medical care that was needed, on TAX PAYER money. I bet if she was given a choice, "We will leave you unshackled if you pay the bill for your own care" she would BEG to be shackled :D
And since when is shackling a criminal considered "going out of way to device our own punishment"?
Have YOU read the article you just quoted? It clearly says this is not in widespread use. Pain is SUBJECTIVE. I hope you know what subjective means.
also if everyone goes through same amount of pain, that doesn't reduce the intensity.
Yes it does. Because intensity of pain is perceived differently by different people. Just like Joy and pleasure are subjective.
Let me ask you once you get laid off when your wife is pregnant. I am sure that you know that as soon as you are off the job on H1, unless you had AOS, you are ILLEGAL from same instant. Let me see where your principals hold. Status is a piece of paper which is created by human.
In the remote circumstance that, that ever happens to me, i will follow the law and NOT DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL. Would you stay here illegally in such a circumstance? That makes you a "latent illegal". No wonder you sympathize with them.
And imagine tying the hands to a bar when delivering a baby. I wonder we complaint about cramped seats in plane when flying to India (unless you fly business class, then probably you don't need GC) but think that chained to bed when delivering a baby is perfectly okay !
A repeat violator of the law needs to be shackled. Just because she is pregnant doesnt mean she is a saint.
There is a law for illegals and they should get the punishment (deported), but that doesn't mean we should go out of way to device our own punishments to 'teach a lesson' to 'these illegals'. There are some basic Human rights. Even POW's are supposed to be treated with those human rights.[/QUOTEe.
Human rights? This repeated violator of the law was taken to a hospital, FREE OF CHARGE. She got all the medical care that was needed, on TAX PAYER money. I bet if she was given a choice, "We will leave you unshackled if you pay the bill for your own care" she would BEG to be shackled :D
And since when is shackling a criminal considered "going out of way to device our own punishment"?
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07-05 06:26 PM
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ragz4u
04-13 01:51 PM
In the words of the person who sent this to me
I moved to the US on a H1 visa, from India 7 years ago. I have a Bachelors in Engineering and a Management degree as well. I work in the areas of Business Intelligence and Data Warehousing. An area of expertise that helps corporations here in the US become competitive and stay competitive. Among other benefits, my work aids businesses in making informed operational, tactical and strategic decisions and gain competitive advantage.
With this retrogression, It is going be several years before USCIS will even get to my file to adjudicate. While I understand a green card is not my right, I think I have worked towards it for a long time now. I am in this country legally, paying taxes, contributing to this economy, spending my earnings in this country like any other law abiding American citizen.
I have legally asked this country and USCIS for Permanent Residency (PR). My request for PR is not based on the premise that my parents/relatives live here and are citizens in this country. I am not even asking for Permanent Residency because of the country I come from. I am asking for Permanent Residency based entirely on my educational qualifications, professional expertise and the demonstrated contributions I have made to businesses and the American way of Life.
I have also been accepted as an Instructor at a reputed University in California where I will be teaching in my area of expertise. This clearly helps the American society and Industry.
When I moved to the US, I believed America is all about meritocracy. Work hard, prove your worth and you get what you truly deserve. I feel six years is enough time to prove your worth to get a Permanent Residency.
My tax returns, my legal Status documents, my contributions to this economy etc will prove it. What is really disconcerting is the fact that, now I have to continue to wait for I don't know how many more years for USCIS to even look at my credentials, let alone give me an up or down decision. Mind you this wait is not because of any delays attributable to me.
Is this fair ?
If you think you don't need me, at least tell me, in a reasonable period of time. Please do not make me wait indefinitely.
I moved to the US on a H1 visa, from India 7 years ago. I have a Bachelors in Engineering and a Management degree as well. I work in the areas of Business Intelligence and Data Warehousing. An area of expertise that helps corporations here in the US become competitive and stay competitive. Among other benefits, my work aids businesses in making informed operational, tactical and strategic decisions and gain competitive advantage.
With this retrogression, It is going be several years before USCIS will even get to my file to adjudicate. While I understand a green card is not my right, I think I have worked towards it for a long time now. I am in this country legally, paying taxes, contributing to this economy, spending my earnings in this country like any other law abiding American citizen.
I have legally asked this country and USCIS for Permanent Residency (PR). My request for PR is not based on the premise that my parents/relatives live here and are citizens in this country. I am not even asking for Permanent Residency because of the country I come from. I am asking for Permanent Residency based entirely on my educational qualifications, professional expertise and the demonstrated contributions I have made to businesses and the American way of Life.
I have also been accepted as an Instructor at a reputed University in California where I will be teaching in my area of expertise. This clearly helps the American society and Industry.
When I moved to the US, I believed America is all about meritocracy. Work hard, prove your worth and you get what you truly deserve. I feel six years is enough time to prove your worth to get a Permanent Residency.
My tax returns, my legal Status documents, my contributions to this economy etc will prove it. What is really disconcerting is the fact that, now I have to continue to wait for I don't know how many more years for USCIS to even look at my credentials, let alone give me an up or down decision. Mind you this wait is not because of any delays attributable to me.
Is this fair ?
If you think you don't need me, at least tell me, in a reasonable period of time. Please do not make me wait indefinitely.
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jsb
08-18 09:53 AM
Just an observation - There always seem to be a gap of 2 months between Receipt date and Notice date.
So for July 2nd filers, there notice date would be September 2007. But they all got GC last yr when they made it current till 2006 PD. However processing times arent Sept 2007 even now which makes me believe its the receipt date?
What do you guys think.
No, it is not always a 2 month gap. Normally RD (on your receipt), the data entry date (you see online as "your case was received on..."), and ND should be in quick succession. It was only in July/Aug 07 when due to high volumes many cases (including mine) waited for data entry for months, as no center wanted to accept that additional responsbility. Those whose cases were entered in July/Aug 07, became ahead of those whose cases were entered in Sept and Oct 07, no matter when they filed or what their RD (as on the receipt). People with PD in 2005 and 2006 who got GC last year were those lucky ones who cases were entered in the system in July, Aug (and may be some in Sept) 07.
So for July 2nd filers, there notice date would be September 2007. But they all got GC last yr when they made it current till 2006 PD. However processing times arent Sept 2007 even now which makes me believe its the receipt date?
What do you guys think.
No, it is not always a 2 month gap. Normally RD (on your receipt), the data entry date (you see online as "your case was received on..."), and ND should be in quick succession. It was only in July/Aug 07 when due to high volumes many cases (including mine) waited for data entry for months, as no center wanted to accept that additional responsbility. Those whose cases were entered in July/Aug 07, became ahead of those whose cases were entered in Sept and Oct 07, no matter when they filed or what their RD (as on the receipt). People with PD in 2005 and 2006 who got GC last year were those lucky ones who cases were entered in the system in July, Aug (and may be some in Sept) 07.
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ragz4u
04-20 10:18 AM
Thanks for sharing this story with us...we truly appreciate it.
I joined a small company right after graduating from a university in the US with a masters degree. At the time of joining, I was told orally that my GC will be processed in a timely manner. Being naive and timid, I did not press the issue and months became years before the employer agreed to file my labor after work for the company for 5 years (1 year of OPT right after school + 4 years of MS). Although I work in high-tech and would have qualified for RIR, the company lawyer convinced me to apply using the traditional route promising the entire process would take two years. Once again, being naive I agreed. Now, I am on my 8th year with the same company with my labor stuck in BEC, and no relief in sight. I can look forward to years more in the same position and same company! Sadly, though I am highly respected senior member of the company (in terms of knowledge and time with the company), people who joined after me and were trained by me, have gone on to Managerial positions, while I can only sit and watch.
I do not blame anyone or anything for my predicament, except my naivety. At least, I am glad for sources of information such as immigrationvoice, immigrationportal and immigration-law that have helped me immensely with my education on all matters immigration. Now, I feel I know more than my lawyer and cannot be convinced to take foolish decisions. So, it gladdens my heart to see that we in immigrationvoice seem to be having some impact on the lawmakers as it feels like I finally have control over changing my status quo.
I joined a small company right after graduating from a university in the US with a masters degree. At the time of joining, I was told orally that my GC will be processed in a timely manner. Being naive and timid, I did not press the issue and months became years before the employer agreed to file my labor after work for the company for 5 years (1 year of OPT right after school + 4 years of MS). Although I work in high-tech and would have qualified for RIR, the company lawyer convinced me to apply using the traditional route promising the entire process would take two years. Once again, being naive I agreed. Now, I am on my 8th year with the same company with my labor stuck in BEC, and no relief in sight. I can look forward to years more in the same position and same company! Sadly, though I am highly respected senior member of the company (in terms of knowledge and time with the company), people who joined after me and were trained by me, have gone on to Managerial positions, while I can only sit and watch.
I do not blame anyone or anything for my predicament, except my naivety. At least, I am glad for sources of information such as immigrationvoice, immigrationportal and immigration-law that have helped me immensely with my education on all matters immigration. Now, I feel I know more than my lawyer and cannot be convinced to take foolish decisions. So, it gladdens my heart to see that we in immigrationvoice seem to be having some impact on the lawmakers as it feels like I finally have control over changing my status quo.
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anilsal
09-08 12:22 AM
Let us all refrain from using bad language. America prides itself on its freedom of speech. Everybody has the right to speak their mind, but let us be mindful of how we say it!
For all those of you who are ticked off by Sherman and the likes, please come to Washington DC on the 18th and prove them wrong. If we speak loud enough, we will be heard.
See you all at DC on the 18th!
Agreed. The only way to answer this is to be present at the DC rally.
For all those of you who are ticked off by Sherman and the likes, please come to Washington DC on the 18th and prove them wrong. If we speak loud enough, we will be heard.
See you all at DC on the 18th!
Agreed. The only way to answer this is to be present at the DC rally.
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murali77
07-17 08:08 PM
My heartiest congratulations to IV and Core. Over the last 2 weeks I found that IV was the most reliable and quickest in giving us information.
I have a question for IV , is there a possibility of increasing annual GC quota or atleast reusing unused Visas from previous years.
Thanks and thanks again for all your work.
Murali
I have a question for IV , is there a possibility of increasing annual GC quota or atleast reusing unused Visas from previous years.
Thanks and thanks again for all your work.
Murali
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npatel
04-25 08:07 AM
I completed my MS in Computer Science from US around 6 years back, was on OPT for a year & thereafter moved out of US & came back to my home town. Have been working here for 6 years now in the software field & have now applied for H1B under masters Quota. Was wondering if I am eligible to apply under this quota as I am neither a fresh masters graduate nor have any status in the US. Also, my lawyer has only filled out the I-129 form. Is there any special form that needs to be filled out to be considered for Master's quota?
Please reply�:rolleyes:
See my reply in
All H1B Master's Quota here Thread
Please reply�:rolleyes:
See my reply in
All H1B Master's Quota here Thread
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av2004
06-18 12:12 PM
Logiclife, thank you very much for the encouraging words and your commitment to our cause.
I had the good fortune of attending the IV Advocacy days (albeit only for one day) in DC and walking side by side with great people such as logiclife, Aman etc. and experiencing the amazing feat performed by most of the members (naming a few, please feel free to add more...):
Contacting the lawmakers, confirming appointments.
Being cheerful, yet completely focussed on the task at hand.
Being mindful of what to mention to the lawmakers or their representatives.
All this was accomplished with the limited resources that IV has in terms of volunteer and monetary support. I, like many of the people here, was skeptical of how IV spends the money that is being donated by many donors we see on this forum. It was an eye opener to me when heard that we are doing the advocacy event after 3 long years because of the limited resources we have. I mean, think the 40,000+ users we have on this forum. If each one of us members donated $1, it would have pretty much covered the advocacy day costs. Instead, I read that we could collect only $20,000 for this event (even after most of people paid $50 at a minimum!).
I am not a donor on this forum yet, but I would like to be one just to support the activities of IV. I am more than convinced that the money I will spend will be put to good use for the good of this community. Mind you, many of the IV advocacy day volunteers had already received their green cards, yet they are fighting for me and you. What good would it be if we still continue to sit on the side and not support such wholesome activities made by these sincere guys? Hats off to IV (and the leaders of IV) for providing us with a great platform and opportunities to make an impact and make out issues heard by the lawmakers.
So, I request you all to take some action to help IV and help yourself, in turn. If you have any misgivings, by all means direct questions to any of the IV leaders and I am sure they can provide answers..
Lastly, I really liked the "passion" part of logiclife's message very much and would like to end with a quote about passion:
"Swami Vivekananda said, "Give me men of passion." Passion means a passionate nature, that if I do this, I must do it perfectly. I must do it as well as I can. I must do it now. And promises do not constitute work. He who wants to give must give now."
Be Unreasonable & a cause of progress, not just a beneficiary.
Hello everyone,
I will explain the title of this thread in a minute (the unreasonable part) but before that I would like to share my experience in DC last week during, before and after lobby days.
A few weeks ago, when Aman called me to join him in lobby days, just like many others, I was having a difficult time scheduling vacation days off from work. I somehow convinced my boss to let me take those days off and finish the work in the weekend prior to June.
The Airport pickup:
When I reached the Airport, Aman and Pratik were there to pick me up. And this is where it got funny and really hilarious. The car was a compact rental car and it was full of printers, laptops and folders -- all in preparation of lobby day. There was barely enough place to sit in the car. After shutting all the doors tight (we really had to compress the luggage and force the door shut) we started driving towards the hotel. And the dome light would not shut off. So everyone outside can see a car full of luggage, printers and people packed like a can of sardines. Fortunately Aman knew the way to the Hotel and we could go there without having to stop for directions.
Preparation and training on Sunday:
Sunday was hectic, busy, tiring and very very interesting. I met a lot of new people on Sunday who had come to DC for the first time. And it felt really really good to reconnect with people who we had met earlier in 2007 rally in DC and the earlier rally in San Jose in July. Just felt like I had met my friends from college with whom I spend 4 years. The kind of relationship and chemistry that we have is impossible to describe in words. Crisis and calamity have a way of creating bonds that last a lifetime. We all may get green-cards in next 1 year or maybe 10 years. But I will remember the people I met in DC twice and in San Jose for the rest of my life. And I am sure others feel the same way. These are the people who were sitting on the laptop scheduling lawmaker meetings and connecting members to appointments till 4:00 AM on Monday morning and then back to work by 8:00 AM. We ate whatever was ordered or whatever we found in the hotel. There were people printing business cards in one corner. Others were printing the drop-off material for lawmakers, preparing neat folders for meetings. There was training and mock-meetings going on in another corner for people who had never been to the Capitol Hill before. There was so much purpose and so much goal-oriented motivation in the room, I felt really glad to have not missed this even one out of 3 times we done this both in DC and in San Jose.
The next two days:
Over the next two days, I went to about 7 meetings in the House and Senate side and had very very interesting experiences, mostly positive. I cannot share the details of the response for each office as this is a public forum, but I can tell you that having been to DC about 6 times now since 2006, there are Hill Staffers who know many of us and even remember our names. Our conversations do not begin with introductions, but where we left off in our last meeting. More than 60-70% of the offices of Congressmen and Senators know about Immigration Voice and know about the issue. Some offices may have newer staff and not know, and that's where education helps.
Every single day consisted of going to the Hill from the situation room, (I mostly took a cab, I am lazy that way even if its only 4 blocks), coming back, getting some work done, going back to the Hill, accompanying someone if they are alone in the meetings (it helps to have 2 or more IV members go to a meeting). We worked till 11 PM mostly, and got about 4-5 hours of sleep each night. And that is true for everyone who was there. EVERY SINGLE one. Walking between the office buildings (and they are big) and walking a few times back to the Hotel also made some of us realize (like me) that how out of shape we are physically :):)
And now to the UNreasonables:
Every single person who came to DC this time or the time before, or who came to San Jose rally has been told by friends, family and colleagues "Why are you going to DC, let others go, take care of yourself, all problems get fixed eventually, Congress will take care of it".
They sound very reasonable or try to convince you that they are the reasonable ones and you are being unreasonable by going to the Capitol and working on your cause.
The truth is...yes, we may be. But we are the ones who will eventually make a difference. If you read the quote from George Bernard Shaw, you will realize that the reasonable men and women will sit around and talk about us, save their time for family and leisure and comply themselves to the system. They will comply themselves to a system that keeps in hanging without a green card for 20 years. They will never be capable of ushering progress.
The unreasonable ones, the ones like us, who contribute to this cause in various forms, are the gifted ones. We are the lucky ones. For we have the wisdom and the strength to do the unreasonable and get the world to comply to our point of view.
And flower campaign, the DC rally -- that got bulletin reversed in 2007,
the popularity of removing per-country ceilings in the offices that exist today and didnt exist before --
All this a work of men and women like us who are unreasonably resilient, who will not listen to the advise of reasonable men who sit on the sidelines and refresh the Visa Bulletin page every first friday of every month 20 times a day.
But to those who get it...I have one more quote for you, a final one, I promise:
I wish the problem of greencard backlogs get cleared soon, but if it doesnt, I will do this a 100 times again and with same or more passion, determination and purpose. Our energy and determination would outlast and outlive the intertia of Congress.
I had the good fortune of attending the IV Advocacy days (albeit only for one day) in DC and walking side by side with great people such as logiclife, Aman etc. and experiencing the amazing feat performed by most of the members (naming a few, please feel free to add more...):
Contacting the lawmakers, confirming appointments.
Being cheerful, yet completely focussed on the task at hand.
Being mindful of what to mention to the lawmakers or their representatives.
All this was accomplished with the limited resources that IV has in terms of volunteer and monetary support. I, like many of the people here, was skeptical of how IV spends the money that is being donated by many donors we see on this forum. It was an eye opener to me when heard that we are doing the advocacy event after 3 long years because of the limited resources we have. I mean, think the 40,000+ users we have on this forum. If each one of us members donated $1, it would have pretty much covered the advocacy day costs. Instead, I read that we could collect only $20,000 for this event (even after most of people paid $50 at a minimum!).
I am not a donor on this forum yet, but I would like to be one just to support the activities of IV. I am more than convinced that the money I will spend will be put to good use for the good of this community. Mind you, many of the IV advocacy day volunteers had already received their green cards, yet they are fighting for me and you. What good would it be if we still continue to sit on the side and not support such wholesome activities made by these sincere guys? Hats off to IV (and the leaders of IV) for providing us with a great platform and opportunities to make an impact and make out issues heard by the lawmakers.
So, I request you all to take some action to help IV and help yourself, in turn. If you have any misgivings, by all means direct questions to any of the IV leaders and I am sure they can provide answers..
Lastly, I really liked the "passion" part of logiclife's message very much and would like to end with a quote about passion:
"Swami Vivekananda said, "Give me men of passion." Passion means a passionate nature, that if I do this, I must do it perfectly. I must do it as well as I can. I must do it now. And promises do not constitute work. He who wants to give must give now."
Be Unreasonable & a cause of progress, not just a beneficiary.
Hello everyone,
I will explain the title of this thread in a minute (the unreasonable part) but before that I would like to share my experience in DC last week during, before and after lobby days.
A few weeks ago, when Aman called me to join him in lobby days, just like many others, I was having a difficult time scheduling vacation days off from work. I somehow convinced my boss to let me take those days off and finish the work in the weekend prior to June.
The Airport pickup:
When I reached the Airport, Aman and Pratik were there to pick me up. And this is where it got funny and really hilarious. The car was a compact rental car and it was full of printers, laptops and folders -- all in preparation of lobby day. There was barely enough place to sit in the car. After shutting all the doors tight (we really had to compress the luggage and force the door shut) we started driving towards the hotel. And the dome light would not shut off. So everyone outside can see a car full of luggage, printers and people packed like a can of sardines. Fortunately Aman knew the way to the Hotel and we could go there without having to stop for directions.
Preparation and training on Sunday:
Sunday was hectic, busy, tiring and very very interesting. I met a lot of new people on Sunday who had come to DC for the first time. And it felt really really good to reconnect with people who we had met earlier in 2007 rally in DC and the earlier rally in San Jose in July. Just felt like I had met my friends from college with whom I spend 4 years. The kind of relationship and chemistry that we have is impossible to describe in words. Crisis and calamity have a way of creating bonds that last a lifetime. We all may get green-cards in next 1 year or maybe 10 years. But I will remember the people I met in DC twice and in San Jose for the rest of my life. And I am sure others feel the same way. These are the people who were sitting on the laptop scheduling lawmaker meetings and connecting members to appointments till 4:00 AM on Monday morning and then back to work by 8:00 AM. We ate whatever was ordered or whatever we found in the hotel. There were people printing business cards in one corner. Others were printing the drop-off material for lawmakers, preparing neat folders for meetings. There was training and mock-meetings going on in another corner for people who had never been to the Capitol Hill before. There was so much purpose and so much goal-oriented motivation in the room, I felt really glad to have not missed this even one out of 3 times we done this both in DC and in San Jose.
The next two days:
Over the next two days, I went to about 7 meetings in the House and Senate side and had very very interesting experiences, mostly positive. I cannot share the details of the response for each office as this is a public forum, but I can tell you that having been to DC about 6 times now since 2006, there are Hill Staffers who know many of us and even remember our names. Our conversations do not begin with introductions, but where we left off in our last meeting. More than 60-70% of the offices of Congressmen and Senators know about Immigration Voice and know about the issue. Some offices may have newer staff and not know, and that's where education helps.
Every single day consisted of going to the Hill from the situation room, (I mostly took a cab, I am lazy that way even if its only 4 blocks), coming back, getting some work done, going back to the Hill, accompanying someone if they are alone in the meetings (it helps to have 2 or more IV members go to a meeting). We worked till 11 PM mostly, and got about 4-5 hours of sleep each night. And that is true for everyone who was there. EVERY SINGLE one. Walking between the office buildings (and they are big) and walking a few times back to the Hotel also made some of us realize (like me) that how out of shape we are physically :):)
And now to the UNreasonables:
Every single person who came to DC this time or the time before, or who came to San Jose rally has been told by friends, family and colleagues "Why are you going to DC, let others go, take care of yourself, all problems get fixed eventually, Congress will take care of it".
They sound very reasonable or try to convince you that they are the reasonable ones and you are being unreasonable by going to the Capitol and working on your cause.
The truth is...yes, we may be. But we are the ones who will eventually make a difference. If you read the quote from George Bernard Shaw, you will realize that the reasonable men and women will sit around and talk about us, save their time for family and leisure and comply themselves to the system. They will comply themselves to a system that keeps in hanging without a green card for 20 years. They will never be capable of ushering progress.
The unreasonable ones, the ones like us, who contribute to this cause in various forms, are the gifted ones. We are the lucky ones. For we have the wisdom and the strength to do the unreasonable and get the world to comply to our point of view.
And flower campaign, the DC rally -- that got bulletin reversed in 2007,
the popularity of removing per-country ceilings in the offices that exist today and didnt exist before --
All this a work of men and women like us who are unreasonably resilient, who will not listen to the advise of reasonable men who sit on the sidelines and refresh the Visa Bulletin page every first friday of every month 20 times a day.
But to those who get it...I have one more quote for you, a final one, I promise:
I wish the problem of greencard backlogs get cleared soon, but if it doesnt, I will do this a 100 times again and with same or more passion, determination and purpose. Our energy and determination would outlast and outlive the intertia of Congress.
hairstyles Julie Benz
radhikac
04-12 06:10 PM
Most of todays GC process results in indentured servitude which is against the law. Just that the indentured servitude is implicit instead of explicit but its still there. Can we use this point along with these stories.
belmontboy
04-15 12:28 PM
Well IV support to this bill does not have my support.
But IV will do what it has to do.
So i cannot wish you all the best because i disagree with the approach
Let us see how things will pan out
we don't have to agree and support everything. IV does what benefits majority of the people (directly or indirectly)
No worries with the luck, If I was lucky, I would have had my GC by now.
BTW, many thanks for a civilized discussion.
But IV will do what it has to do.
So i cannot wish you all the best because i disagree with the approach
Let us see how things will pan out
we don't have to agree and support everything. IV does what benefits majority of the people (directly or indirectly)
No worries with the luck, If I was lucky, I would have had my GC by now.
BTW, many thanks for a civilized discussion.
desi3933
08-26 02:11 PM
One Psycho gave me this red dot for posting my interview experience.
I'm really happy to hear this. Serves you right for making calls and taking InfoPass all the time. You are unfairly trying to get ahead of others and lowering the productivity of USCIS. Let them work.
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Please ignore these red dots and comments. It their frustration that is talking. So, when you have a minute, wish them well and move on with a smile.
Hope you get GC approval very soon.
Good Luck!
I'm really happy to hear this. Serves you right for making calls and taking InfoPass all the time. You are unfairly trying to get ahead of others and lowering the productivity of USCIS. Let them work.
.........
.........
.........
Please ignore these red dots and comments. It their frustration that is talking. So, when you have a minute, wish them well and move on with a smile.
Hope you get GC approval very soon.
Good Luck!
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